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David Breedveld
Dabei seit: Januar 2010
Herkunft: Holland
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| OFFICIAL RESULT CHALLENGE MONZA 2014 | |
Sunday, September 28 2014
RACE RESULT (after 34 laps)
Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff
1 9 Christof Gietzelt Lotus GER 34 50m22.969s
2 7 Kelvin Mace Ferrari USA 31 50m51s 29s
3 18 Carsi Grelck BRM GER 34 51m00.585s 37.616s
4 11 David Breedveld Eagle HOL 34 51m02.186s 39.217s
5 3 Konni Koch Eagle AUT 31 51m06s 43s
6 15 Harald Podzielny Eagle GER 31 51m13s 50s
7 14 Claudio Callipo Brabham ITA 34 51m15.636s 52.667s
8 20 Bastian Grupp Eagle GER 33 51m22s 59s
9 10 Olaf Lehmann Eagle GER 34 51m26.644s 1m03.675s
10 19 Rainer Alpen BRM GER 34 51m36.705s 1m13.736s
11 8 Fabian Casula Cooper SUI 34 51m52.032s 1m29.063s
12 2 Gabor Olah Eagle BRA 0 0m00.000s DNF
Finish times of Kelvin, Konni, Harry and Bastian are estimations.
FASTEST LAP
Harald Podzielny 1m27.668s
(David Breedveld's 1m27.635s is a warp time)
Startcrash zone:
>>>> checked, 2 incidents within startcrash zone
Protests:
1882 __ automatic _____ 0:54 Claudio Callipo / Carsi Grelck
1883 __ automatic _____ 0:55 David Breedveld / Claudio Callipo
1884 __ automatic _____ 0:58 Rainer Alpen / David Breedveld
1885 __ automatic _____ 1:21 Harald Podzielny / Gabor Olah
1886 __ automatic _____ 1:22 Konni Koch / Harald Podzielny
1887 __ automatic _____ 1:23 Kelvin Mace / Konni Koch
1888 __ automatic _____ 1:24 Carsi Grelck / Kelvin Mace
1889 __ automatic _____ 1:25 Kelvin Mace / Harald Podzielny
1890 __ automatic _____ 1:25 Bastian Grupp / Carsi Grelck
1891 __ automatic _____ 1:26 Bastian Grupp / Kelvin Mace
1892 __ automatic _____ 1:27 Claudio Callipo / Kelvin Mace
1893 __ automatic _____ 1:28 Konni Koch / Claudio Callipo
1894 __ automatic _____ 1:31 Harald Podzielny / Fabian Casula
1895 __ automatic _____ 2:49 Bastian Grupp / Harald Podzielny
1896 __ Kelvin Mace ___ missed checkpoint through GPL-lag; finished 2nd at the chequer
Assessments / Einschätzungen:
1882 __ automatic _____ 0:54 Claudio Callipo / Carsi Grelck
Claudio follows Carsi closely. Carsi then loses relative speed as he shifts up and Claudio swirves over to the left and colides with David.
>>>> Startcrash Claudio Callipo [img]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36a9f8af80267821e6.jpg[/img]
1883 __ automatic _____ 0:55 David Breedveld / Claudio Callipo
1884 __ automatic _____ 0:58 Rainer Alpen / David Breedveld
David Breedveld and Rainer Alpen suffer the consequences of the startcrash.
1885 __ automatic _____ 1:21 Harald Podzielny / Gabor Olah
Gabor Olah is overtaking Harald Podzielny on the right side. They approach Lesmos 1, a right hander. Gabor is in the dead angle of Harry. At the corner entrance Harry doesn't give him much room. One second before the crash Gabor hits the curbs. This small mistake pushes his car to the left and there is an unfortunate collision with Harry.
>>>> Startcrash Gabor Olah [img]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36a9f8af80267821e6.jpg[/img]
1886 __ automatic _____ 1:22 Konni Koch / Harald Podzielny
Harry's car bounces back from the rail and hits Konni's car. Race accident.
1887 __ automatic _____ 1:23 Kelvin Mace / Konni Koch
1888 __ automatic _____ 1:24 Carsi Grelck / Kelvin Mace
Kelvin and Carsi can't avoid colliding with Konni. Race accidents.
1889 __ automatic _____ 1:25 Kelvin Mace / Harald Podzielny
No contact. Harry's car flies overhead.
1890 __ automatic _____ 1:25 Bastian Grupp / Carsi Grelck
Three seconds after the crash became visible to Bastian, he is coasting at speed of about 95 km/h. He could have braked instead. In this case it's hard to prevent a crash with the car in front (Carsi) and behind (Olaf), because Olaf is in the mirror, approaching at high speed. I think the right choice is to brake for the car in front, if you can't evade him.
1891 __ automatic _____ 1:26 Bastian Grupp / Kelvin Mace
No contact. Bastian's car flies overhead.
1892 __ automatic _____ 1:27 Claudio Callipo / Kelvin Mace
Olaf sees the traffic jam. He brakes well and keeps his car under control. Kelvin is in reversed position on the track against the rail. He steers full lock to the left to recover. By doing so, he moves sideways into traffic and collides with Olaf. There's no protest filed against this. It's important not to roll slowly to the center of the track in a traffic jam. Claudio is able to evade Kelvin, who stands still in the middle of the track.
>>>> Warning Kelvin Mace [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39546889/smileys/referee-blowing-whistle.gif[/img]
1893 __ automatic _____ 1:28 Konni Koch / Claudio Callipo
1894 __ automatic _____ 1:31 Harald Podzielny / Fabian Casula
Much room between the cars. No contacts.
1895 __ automatic _____ 02:49 Bastian Grupp / Harald Podzielny
Bastian literally sticks his car's nose up Harry's gearbox and GPL registers a contact, yet nothing happened (I envy your optimism, Bastian o0  )
Bastian steckt die Nase seines Wagens GPL registriert eine Berührung -> nichts passiert (Deinen Optimismus möchte ich haben, Basti. Ich empfehle Dir die Szene zu studieren... o0 )
>>>> cancelled / annulliert [IMG]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36c306024847572dda.gif[/IMG]
1896 __ Kelvin Mace ___ missed checkpoint through GPL-lag; finished 2nd at the chequer
The race result was warped. This is fixed for the drivers Kelvin Mace, Konni Koch, Harald Podzielny, and Bastian Grupp.
>>>> fixed / korrigiert [IMG]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36c306024847572dda.gif[/IMG]
Summary / Zusammenfassung
Claudio Callipo and Gabor Olah caused a startcrash. They are not allowed to set a qualy time in the next race in accordance with § 7.05. [img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39546889/smileys/referee-blowing-whistle.gif[/img]
>>>> yellow Callipo / Gelb Callipo [img]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36a9f8af80267821e6.jpg[/img]
>>>> yellow Olah / Gelb Olah [img]https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/54fcf442bc5f1d36a9f8af80267821e6.jpg[/img]
Remarks / Bemerkungen:
The finish order is analysed by me.
The protests are analysed by Fabian. Thanks 
cu on track,
David
Edit: Added on 23 October: David's analyses of protests 1885 to 1894 (startcrash at Lesmos 1).
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 22.10.2014, 18:03 |
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Bastian Grupp
Dabei seit: November 2010
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thx for the analysis. i will recheck about 2:49 I wonder there is no decision about the crash in Lesmo 1.
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| 22.10.2014, 18:37 |
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Chris Gietzelt
Dabei seit: Dezember 2006
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Zitat:
Original von Bastian Grupp
I wonder there is no decision about the crash in Lesmo 1.
me too
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| 22.10.2014, 23:20 |
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David Breedveld
Dabei seit: Januar 2010
Herkunft: Holland
325 Beiträge |
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Zitat:
Original von Chris Gietzelt
Zitat:
Original von Bastian Grupp
I wonder there is no decision about the crash in Lesmo 1.
me too
Because Fabian is not back before the next Challenge Cup race and can't work on analyses right now, I have added the analysis of the startcrash at Lesmos 1, protests 1885 to 1894. So the official result has changed today.
Regards,
David
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| 23.10.2014, 18:20 |
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Olaf Lehmann
Dabei seit: September 2006
Herkunft: Lichtenstein
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Thanks Fabian + David!
you have analysed my collision despite of the missing automatic protest. 
BR
Olaf
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| 23.10.2014, 19:45 |
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Konni Koch
Dabei seit: April 2009
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Thx for analysing!
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| 24.10.2014, 23:09 |
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Carsten Grelck
Dabei seit: November 2006
Herkunft: Schleswig Holstein
192 Beiträge |
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| 25.10.2014, 09:06 |
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Harald_Podzielny
Dabei seit: Januar 2006
Herkunft: Essen/NRW
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| 25.10.2014, 17:50 |
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Kelvin Mace
Dabei seit: Juli 2007
Herkunft: Bayern
825 Beiträge |
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| 29.10.2014, 17:12 |
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Irgendwie passiert in Monza immer so ein Mist.Verschuldet oder unverschuldet.
Parabolica im Kies,später am Ausgang hängengeblieben und zum Schluss nochmal ein Rad abgefahren als Konni sich vor mir drehte.Da wars dann ganz vorbei.Eines meiner schlimmsten Rennen seid langem und ich war froh als es vorbei war.
